The Real Biz Life Chronicles
Unedited stories of Business, Branding and Life.
Banish boring as Tracy Fryer and her guests take a ride on the rollercoaster of being a business owner - or of simply being human! Get ready to learn exactly what it takes to grow with distinction and show mediocrity the middle finger. In this podcast Tracy interview’s authentic business owners, who share their story of building a successful business, their strategies behind their success and leading the way.
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The Real Biz Life Chronicles
#128 Michael Watts: The Real Power of Advice
What happens when business gets stripped of ego, perfection, and the need to always look like you’ve got it together?
I sat down with Michael Watts, business advisor, systems thinker, stand-up comedian, and deeply present father, for a conversation that went far beyond strategy. This episode is about what really happens behind the scenes of business ownership and what it takes to keep going when things fall apart.
Michael didn’t build his business from a place of certainty. He built it from disruption. Job loss. Mental health struggles. A marriage breakdown. Then a conscious decision to start again, deliberately and differently.
We talk about why humour is one of the most underrated leadership tools, how rejection on stage builds resilience in business, and why “good enough” is often the smartest move you can make. We also unpack sustainability, people-first businesses, pipeline anxiety, and the reality of blending parenthood with leadership.
Michael’s perspective on fulfilment, uncertainty, and learning to show up honestly, even when things feel unsettled, provided me with a sense of comfort, and I think it will for you too.
If you’re navigating growth, pressure, identity, or the quieter moments where business feels heavier than usual, this conversation will meet you where you are.
Mentioned In This Episode:
(00:04) Why humour changes how people learn and connect
(09:15) Handling rejection in comedy and business
(22:43) When life collapses and business becomes the reset
(30:49) Parenting, presence, and work–life blend
(46:55) Why business alone will never fulfil you
(54:18) The power of rest and “do-nothing” days
About Michael Watts
Michael is the founder of ToBe Advisory, helping business owners build better businesses for people, planet, and profit through strategy, systems, and sustainability. He’s also a stand-up comedian who believes laughter makes the world lighter.
Connect: tobeadvisory.com | LinkedIn
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Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real—blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success.
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